Ep47 - Being with OneMinding

Welcome to this episode of OneMinding where we take a deep dive into the essence of Being. We explore the fundamental truth that everything we do stems from who we are being, and how checking in with our being can enrich our experiences of the world.

We'll discuss how approaching life with a sense of wonder and appreciation for our place in the world can transform the way we view ourselves and others.

So please join us as we embark on a journey of self-discovery and unlock the keys to living a more fulfilling life.

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In this episode,
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we take a deep dive into the essence of being. We explore the fundamental truth that everything we 
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do stems from who we are being and how checking in with our being can enrich our experiences of the world. 
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We discuss how approaching life with a sense of wonder and appreciation for 
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our place in the world can transform the way we view ourselves and others.
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So please join us as we embark on a journey of self-discovery and 
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unlock the keys of living a more fulfilling life.
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Hello? It's nice to be back. I think it's been around four weeks since we've hosted 
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one of these due to various reasons. I'm hoping that Gem does manage to get on. If not, I've 
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got Internet Dollar as my spare co-host, so I'll get him on to say hi in a moment. It's been quite 
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a long break for us, so yeah, it's a little bit nervous coming back, but very excited to be back.
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I'm really lots as always to talk about, you know, what I see, what Gem sees, 
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what we see as a community, what we see in the world, and you know, people go through so much. It's always nice to have a space where people can 
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find a little bit of release. This is also a podcast. You can find that on all platforms.
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So if you are not subscribed, please go and subscribe. There's over 41 episodes talking about the understanding that we share. You know, it's a very, 
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very important conversation. In many ways. It's to me, probably one of the most important 
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conversations to begin to understand that thought creates our experience is a game changer.
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And it really takes a lot of heat out of the world, out, out of our relationships about all of the things that we put our needs onto 
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because suddenly we see that the needs are all us. That actually what's happening there is we 
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are projecting that out. You know, the enemy of, of our happiness is actually our wanting.
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We're always wanting, we're always desiring, and we're always fighting against reality. It 
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really is this kind of holding reality up to the light of truth, holding 
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our own thinking up to the light of truth, to begin to see it differently. Just to have 
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a shift in consciousness, have a shift in what we notice in the world, because if it's all us, 
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then that's actually a lot easier to deal with. There's the opportunity for shift there. There's the opportunity for change. If it's everyone else, 
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that's a huge battle. So again, that's why we look at this now. The subject tonight is being, 
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being is such an important thing to look at for me, and it's something that I've really explored 
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more over the last year due to a man named Steve Hardison, who's an amazing teacher and coach, and 
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he really talks about this beingness that all our doing actually comes from being what we're doing.
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Great. Yeah, we're having a human experience. We want to do things, but who we are. Is where 
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that is coming from. Who are we being? So we are really going to dig into that. And I want you to 
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just think for a moment about who are you being, like where are you coming from? What, what's the 
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feeling that you are living life from and, and what's that being saying about you right now?
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Yeah. What's it saying about how you feel about yourself? That's really interesting too. It's 
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like, so if all of our experiences and all of our doings come from being, we want to really 
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dig into that and get that right. You know, it's as far upstream as we can go is really important 
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because it's the seed of all experience and the seed of all human experience. But we will give some more examples and talk 
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about that later. I'm going to say hi to Internet Dollar. Hi Molls. Hope you're well. Happy to be here to support you. Oh, thank you. 
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I was warn to be nice and on my best behaviour on the previous base. I will take that advice with, you know, amazing who gave you that advice and I'll listen to them.
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The nice idea is showing up today, 
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even though he's a Gemini. You're going to get only love and hugs from me. Perfect. Well, some of my favourite people are Gemini, so we're good with that. Absolutely. 
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Good. But thank you. I really appreciate that you are here and I, I'm pretty sure maybe it was Bubs that told you to be nice, but I'm not sure we'll see I was warned
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What I always say is showing up to these faces is I don't want you to listen like 
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you're used to listening. This isn't a research project. This is more of an 
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explore. So I just want you to be here and really show up as if you don't know anything 
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about what I'm talking about. Even if you do now, leave all your knowledge at the door. Just see what you can hear in you, because ultimately the more we come from a space of 
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wonder, we come from a space where we don't know anything. Actually, the more beautiful life shows. 
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It's often that we're contaminating life with all of our previous thinking and our 
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beliefs and our opinions, that when we look at life and we see it through those eyes, we tend to begin to project all of that onto the moment, and we kind of make it like muddy water.
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And I do that too, you know, I'm not walking around in a sense of wonder all the time, but I do get to remember that. Oh, oh, I remember who I. I can get to see things fresh for the 
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first time. I don't need to see them for all the things that I've already thought before. 
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All the bullshit that I've made up, all the beliefs that I've adhered to, all the things that people have told me that I've believed to be true, that aren't, I can see it fresh.
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So what we're talking about exploring here is before thought. 
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Again, all that thinking, just park it and listen to this as if you were listening to something new, 
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as if you were listening to music, as if you were listening to the rain falling. And don't worry if you, if you're not getting it, don't worry about that.
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It's not about getting it, not getting it, it's just about listening and being open to the possibility to hearing something new about being human. That's it. So simple and 
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the potential of hearing something new. Can really create a lot of change in your life. 
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Because if life is the product of us, if life and experience is the product of our thinking, 
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surely if we change how we see it, then life's going to show up in a new way, in a fresher way.
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So we're looking for that freshness here. And sometimes we can be resistant to it. Sometimes the 
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ego can say, well, it can't be that simple. I need to change my whole world. I need to change this 
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person. I need to have this in the bank. I need to do A, B, and C, and then everything will be fine. 
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And actually I'm pointing to something a little bit different. It's like everything's fine already, 
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but you just haven't noticed that. It's in that sense of wonder it's before what you. 
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And I know we can go through challenging times. I'm not saying this always, everything's wonderful and you know, life's always going to show up in an amazing way. No, we go through shit.
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But I know in the 10 years that I've been in this understanding, when I go through shit, how immensely helpful knowing the three principles, 
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knowing what we teach is and how helpful it can be. But I can see that Gem is here, so I would love her to come up and say hello. Hello? Ah yes. Oh,
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welcome home. Hi everybody. Oh, I couldn't get on for 10 minutes, but here we are. I did catch the beginning. I 
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managed to get it on my computer, but lovely to have you all here and thank you Internet money for jumping on. All the friendly faces. How was everyone today?
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It's Internet Dollar, but you can call him internet money. I'm just, oh,
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well, with the markets going the way they are, it could be internet penny soon. So let's just be open on
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that. Internet fun tokens. Yeah. Thank you. And welcome everybody. 
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Um, I guess we've already started. Oh, that's okay. That's fine, darling. Yeah. How are, how are you doing? Are you feeling a bit better? Kind
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of, I've been ill for ages. Yeah. Um, yeah. Slowly getting better probably. I think I've 
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had quite a few revelations over the Christmas holidays, uh, like mentally and I think. That's sort of taken out of me quite a lot. But yeah, I'm feeling good. Just not my normal, happy, 
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fun self. Just feeling a bit drained, but I'm okay. Yeah, I'm good. I heard you talking about Steve Hardison and I watched his, his YouTube last night and oh my god, 
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he's incredible. Just I got energy just from watching him. He's so, so amazing. And you got me that book. I definitely recommend the book, 
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the Ultimate Coach to anybody. It's fantastic. Yeah, it's not about coaching, it's, it's not even his storey, it's his clients talking about 
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the work that he does and the idea of being, and you know, he's quite a phenomenal human.
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You know, there's a lot of them in the world and it's wonderful when you come across them that they're really sharing something incredibly powerful. And I actually met him last year. He 
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is an American guy, but he was in London and before I met him I was kind of like, ah, because I mean, he charges a lot of money and I was kind of questioning.
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You know, how can someone charge that and you get all your own judgement come in. And 
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then I met him and literally there was just something in just saying hello that was like, oh no, this man is something else. And I've had it with a few other people that really have that 
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sense of awareness, that presence woken up in them. And another one is a friend of mine called Paul Morgan Summers, who I would say to, 
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you know, as close to an enlightened man as I've ever. And you just sit with them and you just fall out of your conceptual mind, thought falls away. You 
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just sense the deepest self that there's something more to who we are, you know?
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And that's what we hope we do for you too. But, you know, I really recommend checking out Steve Hardison and, and seeing his work because he is kind of a force of nature. We're quite gentle, 
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I would say Steve is, uh, much more forceful in his way of teaching, but there's still a real beauty about it. You know, this idea of everything 
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coming from being was really one that I began to see more deeply through him.
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It's like reality is, is as it is. So we don't want to make reality wrong. We don't want to 
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go outwards, we want to come inwards. We want to see being this possibility of beingness, 
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beingnesses, everything. So, you know, when I was listening to him yesterday, it was very much. This. What do you think? Because that's what you are going to create.
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You know, if you think money is hard to get, money's going to be hard to get. If you think you are no good, you're going to be no good. You know, 
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that's what he's going to, this beingness is like, go there, see who you really are, wake up your divinity, see that you are the essence of the universe and that you 
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can bring anything in, and then you start to touch the true power of what it means to be.
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And from there, if you challenge all of these old concepts and beliefs that you have around yourself, and you see something more, you see it differently. That's the creative 
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energy that we're talking about, and, and it's the same in the principles. We talk about the infinite potential. We talk about the creative potential that we are and that 
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we don't notice because we get so limited by our ideas and our beliefs about ourselves.
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Everything that you think about yourself is a lie. Okay? And that's fine. We all do it, but it's not true. It's made up. When you were born, 
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you were none of these things. You've acquired them. You've acquired them through your parents, 
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your friends, society, your culturally. It's, we become this person and that's fine.
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It's great to be unhuman and have our individuality and our diversity. But 
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it's coming home to see the beingness and the oneness of who we are. That actually changes 
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and enriches that experience of being the human. Okay, so we don't want to run away from it. This 
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isn't a turning away from being human. This is seeing that the deeper that we can go into it, 
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the more we see being as the possibility is the seed for all doing. Then there's something. Then there's something deeper about us that we can 
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challenge the thinking that we have. We see that, you know, the principles that I teach, 
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this mind consciousness thought, they're the being. They're the energies behind life. They're unseen, they're invisible, but they create every experience that we've ever had.
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So whatever you are feeling, whatever you are experiencing, that's you. 
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That's you. You know, you've had the power to create every experience you've had so far. 
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You can have moments of like, holy shit. Yeah, I've created all of this. You are 
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creating the world that you are seeing and there's a lovely, the row quote. It's not what you are looking at, it's what you see. That's so true. Now we see the differences 
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in that when we observe ourselves and we see how we feel differently about different things on different days. So if I'm creating this, if I can get deeper into my being, 
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I can probably touch that essence of who I am and see what do I really want to create?
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Not what thoughts telling me, not what someone else has told me I need to be, or I need to create. Begin to see it differently. So we're not talking about something like the 
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secret or manifestation here, because that often can come from the ego. That can often be, I want the big house, I want the car, I want the physical things in life.
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And I'm not saying we shouldn't have those. They're great fun. But what we're saying here is that this is a stripping back of who we are, not. Until we get to that being in that essence 
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and we can really touch and see the truth of what we want. And it's very often not a house or a car, 
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although they can come with it, but it's an idea, it's an experience.
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It's how you want to show up in the world. Can you see the difference now from that? Everything 
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will come from. I see it in myself when I'm contracted and I'm feeling shitty about myself, 
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I'm not creating the greatest things in my life when I'm feeling good, when I'm seeing 
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this and living this. I'm just connected with everything of whatever I need shows up 
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like literally, but not from an ego that I need that thing to be okay from a deeper space.
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Being this, that everything just turns up because there's just no other choice. 
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It's like an abundant mindset, but not because I'm not okay without it. 
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I hope you're getting the difference here. It is quite a huge difference. And again, playing the 
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material well, that's what we're here to do, but often we pin our security and our wellbeing on.
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And we move out of understanding the role of thought in our experience and we go into 
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the world is creating our experience. The material needs to give me my experience. 
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Now, understanding the role of thought isn't actually a cure for the world, 
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but it does free us up. It frees us to see that actually the experience is secondary.
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To me, to my thinking, to this energy, this powerful creative energy of thought that I am, 
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and it's perfectly normal to see both. It's perfectly normal to experience the beingness 
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and then to experience the humanness, the attachments, the wants and the needs. We're going to get it all, but we are moving away.
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And what I truly love about. Is we're moving away from the old psychological concepts that 
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have really, in my belief, kept people limited because we're seeing that psychology is thought. 
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It's thought that often isn't true, that is coming and going. So do not get caught in the storey. 
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There's nothing in the storey for you. The storey is the doing this. It's what the mind is saying is often taking us away from 
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being this. So we just begin to see. Okay. There's something more to this being human. 
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Yeah. And that's so juicy when we get to look at it. When we get to play with it, when we get to see it. Oh, I'm more than what I think I am.
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Absolutely. I think even as deeply as I can see this, which is just, you know, 
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a certain amount, I can see it to a certain depth. There's infinitely more for me to see. 
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Even as little as I see it, it's so helpful. So it frees up our minds 
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because we are not focusing so much on the content of thought to try and cure thought.
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So if you can see from what I'm saying, trying to cure thought with thought is unhelpful because 
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you're going to the same level of consciousness, you're going to the same thing. And beginning to see that, the observation of thought, the beingness, the seeing that thought isn't true. 
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Is an amazing thing for mental health because suddenly you are free from thoughts that can be scary, can be upsetting, can be habitual.
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Now, I'm not taking thought away in this, you know, the three principles, you know, whatever anyone else is teaching in the realms of this understanding isn't taking thought, un 
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stopping thought, but it is deeply changing your relationship to your own thinking. Like, look at. 
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You show up habitually. Look at your behaviours or your thinking, or the way you do something.
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You do over and over again. You go, the fuck did I do it like that again? And what's wrong 
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with me? Why did I do that again? And the more upstream you can go to your being to see that, 
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the more likely that is to fall away rather than it being about the thing, you know, behaviour is 
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the end of the line. You know, once you're at behaviour, try to cure and control behaviour.
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Your loss is upstream. Keep coming back. Keep coming back further and further until you get 
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to thought, until you get to your being, until you get to the source of who you really are. 
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Because as we challenge thought, so. If you can begin to see that 
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habitual thinking as you can begin to see a lot of that unhelpful thinking as ego.
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Yeah. And we've all got one. I don't think there's a cure for ego, but we can shift it. We can have a better experience of it, it can have less control over us. And I think as 
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we see through an unhelpful belief, a bit of the ego burns away. And as that burns away, 
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there's another layer of light. It's almost as if we can touch the space of truth a little bit more.
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We can see who we are before thought a tiny bit more. That's who we are. It's all within you 
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already there in Bill as standard. Nothing special. We've all got it, but incredibly beautiful and paradoxically incredibly special. 
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It's just there just. The thoughts that tell you that it's not 
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and thought is so compelling and compulsive and appears so real to me too a lot of the time.
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But now I know that there's another way for me to see it. I've got something very, very beautiful 
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to read from one of my favourite teachers, Eckhart to, and it is. When you contemplate 
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the unfathomable depth of space or listen to the silence in the early hours just before sunrise, 
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something within you resonates with it as if in recognition, you then sense the vast 
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depth of space as your own depth, and you know that precious stillness that has no.
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To be more deeply who you are than any of the things that make up the content of your life. 
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The twofold reality of the universe, which consists of things and space, 
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thingness and no thingness is also your own. A sane, balanced, 
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and fruitful human life is a dance between the two dimensions that make up reality form and.
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Most people are so identified with dimension of form, with sense perceptions, 
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thoughts and emotions that the vital hidden half is missing from their lives. 
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Their identification with form keeps them trapped in ego, 
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just as space enables all things to exist. And just as without silence, there would be no sound.
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You would not exist without the vital formless dimension. That is the essence of who you are. 
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We could say it's God if the word had not been so misused, I prefer to call 
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it being. Being is prior to existence. Existence is form content. What happens 
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existence is the foreground of life. Being is the background.
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I just think he explains that. So beautiful. So I'm going to see if any of my co-hosts have anything to add or to say, and then also please, 
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if you have any questions or anything to say, please raise your hand and come up. Well,
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firstly, I'm glad that you said his name cause I've been calling him Elkhart.
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Tolley forever. That's how it's spelt. Um, could I just, sorry, 
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I'm not a butt in because I've been calling Eckhart Tolley forever too, and tonight I was like, I wonder if I got it right and I actually Googled how to say it. Oh
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my goodness. Okay. Well we really swapped over there. That's amazing. And that was really, really, really beautiful.
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And all I kept hearing, and I've got no idea who said it, but someone said something like, you can't think your way out of a problem that you thought your way into. 
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And that's all I kept hearing as you were going through that because God, that's what 
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we do when we tie ourselves up with issues and then we think, how do I get out of this? How do I get out of it? And actually there's probably not really an issue anyway. It's, 
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you know, us creating it. And yeah, it's really quite mind blowing when we can take ourself into 
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that space. I. I'm going from being in it. I call it Gem 2.0. I go from Gem Standard Gem, 
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the one that didn't really know much to Gem 2.0, which is with this new understanding. And I find I flip from one to the other, one to the other quite a lot, 
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but I never used to have the 2.0. So I was kind of stuck in the ego, stuck in the victim state, 
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stuck in the, oh God, life's happening to me. And now that that's slowly dissolving 
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and going into the, the being. So one question that's really come up for me 
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that might be helpful for other people as well is how can, how can I be more and do less? How can I be in my being
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more? It's so interesting that the separation that we are, the Gem, the Molls, the Harry, the Agao, 
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the Bubs, whoever it is, that separation is instantly going to want to try and work out how to 
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do it, how to do. But can you see the track there? It's doing being is going in the wrong direction.
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It's actually going to get us more cult in our minds, in our concepts, in our doing, 
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because we're turning, being into a doing and being comes before doing, oh, that can drive you a bit crazy. But it's just beginning to, I think for me, I can only 
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give you my, how I do it is I just stand the conversation. You know, I've been ill too.
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And I always say to my clients, when you're ill, please do not listen to 
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your thinking. It's like the worst time to listen to thought is when we're sick. And what did I do? I listened to my thinking when I was sick. I made up a whole storey 
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about someone. I got upset about something, and then I was like, what are you doing? You tell this to people day in, day out. Don't listen to. And once I caught myself doing it, 
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I just threw myself into listening. I listened to one of our episodes. I listened to some Eckhart 
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Toll that I now know how to say. Obviously, Steve Hardison has then come in a bit later on, 
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but I just threw myself into knowing that the answer wasn't in me trying to fix the world.
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The answer was in seeing more deeply who I am. And as I did that, 
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suddenly everything that I thought about that person was like, oh, I made all that art. 
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Oh. Oh yeah, they do like me and we are okay. And just really fascinating how one little 
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thing can send us off into a thought storm, a thought spiral and how it's so often not true.
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And I'm sure everyone on the call can relate to that. And we think we've upset someone when we think someone's upset with us, when we think, oh, 
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did I do that right? Or They're going to be okay with that. We can project so much. We can think someone's going to call us and they don't call them. We can 
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make up a whole movie if we're in a low state of mind that they've not called for a reason. That's to do with us, and they've not called because of them. There's something going on. 
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So it's beginning to see that all we have to do is explore. You are not going 
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to get there through an affirmation. You're not going to get there through an exercise. You're not going to get there through a doing. You are already.
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So the less of it you bring to the table, the more you're going to see it. 
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And it's so paradoxical. Totally get that. It can make the mind go, Ugh. 
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But in a way, that's also a good thing because we want the mind to go, Ugh. Because the mind isn't 
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where it's at. The mind is the computer system. The mind is always going to be creating content.
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What we are seeing is that what's creating the content. Let's play there. Let's see what's there, 
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because that's where everything that you think you are looking for in the world already is, 
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and your triggers, and you are going out there and you are, I need this amount of money, 
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or I need this person to like me, or I need to have this relationship, or I need to be friends with This person is actually a really good guide when you catch yourself and you go, oh no, I don.
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Oh, that feeling I think I'm going to get from that experience out there already lives inside me. 
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I've just covered it with thought that isn't true. So my inner exploration will allow me to 
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see that and have a much better experience of life and not have that trigger now, 
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whiffle of them, you know, there's triggers everywhere. I do see that so many dissolve and never free of them, as far as I can see, but they dissolve as we 
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go along, as we begin to see who we really are. Because thought creates our happiness, thought, 
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creates our wellbeing, thought creates our sadness, thought creates everything. 
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But the default, as far as I can see when we fall out of thought, is one of peace.
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We could call it a happiness, but it's a peaceful feeling. It's a loving feeling. 
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You know, another word for oneness to me is love. Where am I not being loving? Where am I not being generous? Where am I not being kind? 
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I too can get caught up in not being the best version of myself, even though I teach this.
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You know, I often fail at being the best version of myself, but. It's not the best version of myself, as in I've got to work on me. It's just 
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the version of me that sees the truth more deeply and knows that the world is an illusion and isn't getting caught up by it, versus the one that's getting upset by 
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the world or the one that thinks the world has to provide me with something to be okay.
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This is what I tweeted yesterday. Trust is our natural stay. Love is our natural stay. Kindness is our natural. I try to live in this knowing failing often, 
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but what I want you to see from that is that the failing often, I don't beat myself up over 
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the failing often. I don't give moulds a hard time over. I just go, oh, well I didn't see it.
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I'll just explore a bit more because maybe then I get to see it a bit more. So I don't do that. Reflecting back. Thinking, oh, I should have done that. I shouldn't have 
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done that. I, you know, oh my God, I'm a bad person because I said that. It's like, no, 
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I was just believing thought in the moment that wasn't helpful and definitely wasn't true.
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So it's getting kinder to ourselves, kinder to our humanity. And you know what's really beautiful about that? When I do that for myself, I do that for others. 
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You know, even to people that are behaving really badly. And I can still react to them. There's a part of me that sees that, wow, they are just so lost.
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Like, thank God I'm not that lost, that I behave in that way. You know? Thank God 
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there's an understanding out there that one day they may find their way home to. So we get to be a bit kinder to ourselves and a bit kinder to others, 
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and we all want the same thing. There's one thing we're all searching for.
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And it's love, you know, underneath whatever it is. It's that feeling of love and being loved. 
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It will show itself in a million different ways, but that's fundamentally it. So when we see that, when we touch that and tune into that and know 
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that, and know that we are already that again, oh, I don't have to search the world for it.
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It's already here. It's already within me. It's already who I. And that's the beauty 
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here. That's what we're waking up in ourselves more deeply in others, hopefully that listen, 
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that we're seeing through the whole illusion and coming home that this beautiful, 
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very temporary experience of being in this body is one that will come and go very quickly.
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And if I can explore where that came from and what that is, I'm going to enjoy. That experience much 
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more than if I just focus on the material. Well, what was it the other day? There was something, 
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it was probably on Twitter and it, I think there was a power and someone put, what would you 
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rather be poor and happy or a billionaire and miserable for the rest of your life? And 50% of people put a billionaire and miserable. It actually shocked me. I was like, wow, 
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that's quite intense that. And I actually put, wow, poor and happy every time. And someone said, 
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well, you'd obviously never experience being rich. And I thought, no, but I've experienced being so 
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unhappy that I wanted to die, so there's no way I'm going back there for any money in the world.
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It was that, oh, okay, it, that's how deep the illusion goes, that the material 
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world contains so much for people. That they would rather that and never be happy again. 
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That's how lost humanity can be. It's even those people, they've only got to hear something 
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and they'll change. I had a guru many years ago called Osho, and he was a really funny Indian guy, 
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huge following, and I lived in his commune in India for a while, and he used to say, 
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the best people I get are the rich people, not because they give me all their money.
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Because they already know it's not in money. They've been there, they've seen that holds nothing. I thought it was there and I'm still miserable. 
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Now, that doesn't mean to say again that we don't play in this world. Get money and have fun. When you understand this and then add money, I'm sure it's bloody wonderful, 
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but it's also bloody wonderful understanding this and not having money. I've been in some of the poorest countries in the world and seen people very, 
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very happy that have. I've seen people with everything that are very unhappy in my work. 
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So it's just shifting up our perceptions of what's true and what's not, and it's just bringing us 
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home to a really beneficial, deeply profound, yet incredibly practical understanding of life.
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And to me, this is priceless. Gem and I do this, we want to share it with the world. We 
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want everyone to get it because we know that even though we can go through hard times and have down 
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days and have various troubles in the world, not knowing this would make that much harder. 
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So, yeah. Ah, just, I'm so excited to be sharing again. I've been doing a private course, as I said, online, but we haven't done un 
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minding for a while. I'm feeling really happy to be back here. So thank and, and adjust like you guys. Thank you for showing up. I love yours so much. 
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I'm just going to hand over to Gem or Id to see if they have anything to add or to say.
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You read something from Robert Adams the other day and it Yeah, it was amazing and I've found some excerpts of some of the things that he said, so I just wanted to 
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read something that follows on from what you said and it, it's called Go Within. So if you really want freedom, liberation, you do not go searching for this.
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It is nowhere to be found for, it already exists within yourself. You are already that. 
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So where can you go searching for it? Who can give it to you? If you want water, you turn on the tap. You do not look at the tap and scream and cry. I want water. You turn on 
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the tap and you have water. Yet, when you're a little kid, you do not know how to turn on the.
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Therefore if you wanted a drink, you would cry and make a fuss and your mum or dad would open the tap and give you a drink. 
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So can you drink from the spring of eternal life, which is your reality, you have to turn on the 
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tap. You have to turn yourself inside out. Can you imagine how you would look turned inside out?
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It wouldn't be a pretty sight, but that is the way, and I think that is absolutely true. And 
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just coming back to, and just having this space tonight with all of us. Yeah, it's, I really wish we could have jumped on last week, but we've obviously both been ill, but it's really 
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nice to have everyone back and yeah, just getting together and being, it's a real great reminder.
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So thank you to all of you for being here. And we did have a request, but they've disappeared, 
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so if anyone does want to come up and ask questions, you are more than welcome. And yeah, it'd be nice to hear what you've got to say as well. Internet dollar. Thank you.
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Put him on the smile. I was just appreciating everything you guys were saying.
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It's like it goes without saying, you know, I think a lot of people take what you guys were talking about for granted, and sometimes it's important to just breathe and think about these 
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sort of issues because life moves very fast and people don't spend enough time thinking. What 
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makes them happy or how they can make themselves happy and be comfortable in their own skin.
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And it's important to self-reflect. You were talking about Osho and I was saying I recently found this guru online. It's funny to say I found this guru online, 
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but there's a guy, his name is Shunya Murthy. And he moved to Costa Rica and like I've just been listening to his YouTube videos for the past year and a half.
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They're like 15 minutes, 17 minutes. And just to like hear his voice is very soothing and to listen 
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to his tidbits of knowledge is very soothing. So, uh, we're not giving recommendations here, 
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but I think that's something that could be very helpful for someone's mindset. Yeah, I love that. And again, everyone will find what they need to.
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So I love that you said that and it, I love still listening to Osho, even though he is not principals based. All these, all these beautiful teachers point to 
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truth. I love listening to Eckhart. There's another beautiful teacher, Claire Diamond, that I love listening to her podcast. And there's so much out there, 
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and you're so right that people don't take the time to actually look in this direction.
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They're so focused. And we get a healthy number on these spaces. And definitely with the podcast 
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we get a lot more, but if we did a spaces on how to make a million dollars overnight, 
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we'd be full up. You know, it'd be like thousands because people are just looking in that direction 
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all the time. And it is about just stopping and going inwards and seeing this truth.
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And again, we're not against materialism. We live in a material world. Go. 
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But when there's not so much attachment on it, it becomes much more fun. So we take the seriousness 
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out of trying to get what we want to get because instead of it containing our wellbeing, instead 
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of the material thing containing our happiness, our wellbeing, our peace of mind, our security, 
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the thing just begins to be a thing that that'll be fun to have, and then we go play with it.
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So there's such a shift of how we feel when we do. Yeah. Also
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like if you think about the happiest times in your life, I guarantee nine out of 10 times does not involve anything having to do with money or material
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things. Absolutely, absolutely. I was chatting to a really, really wealthy 
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person. It was before Christmas, and I said, when were you happiest? And he went, when I lived in a council house on an estate, when I was a. And it was like, 
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wow, you know, a council house in the UK it's like when you've got no money, they give you a council house and that's where you live. And he had all the riches 
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in the world. He can do anything that he wants. And that was his happiest time. And that was like, wow, okay. And that's when you get to see that, that's when, 
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again, it's the calling to the exploration that we are showing you here. Because when 
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you get to that point and you see it's not in all the things in the world, then it. There's something more I need to do. And that's often when people go on the exploration.
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Now it can be through also mental health issues. It can be through a trauma in your 
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life. There's different ways that people come to the understanding. But you know, just get here. And even if there's nothing wrong and you hear something 
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in this explore. Because it really will begin to open your life up to so much more.
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You'll begin to see and get so much more out of the simple things, rather than the complexities that we often apply to our wants and desires. So yeah, 
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it should be fun. Again, it is like a lot of the spiritual teachings that I've followed, 
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cause I've, you know, I've spent a lifetime looking in this direction with different things. Often got quite serious. And what I love about the principles is they don't, we take the seriousness 
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out of it. It becomes light, it becomes fun. You know, it's, we're not here for that long. Why do we need to be so serious? Why do we need to be so caught up? What's really on it for us? 
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You know? And it can be a really fun illusion. And also like, while it's fun, while we haven't got a lot of problems, 
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let's enjoy it. Life can contract and can give us some really hard times and can get really serious. 
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So why do we want to make it serious with our own thinking when we don't need to? You know, 
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again, back to this, come back to your being, come back to seeing, where am I coming from?
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Am I seeing myself as rich, as poor, as wonderful, as terrible, as a good person, 
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as a bad person? When you go deeper and deeper, what's your narrator saying? 
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Because it's not true, because at the core of being this, his perfection is love. 
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So I would say to get as deep into the being as possible would be to be loved, to be loving.
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Am I showing up with love? Am I showing up? Seeing that that person is the best possible version of 
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that person that they can be, that this life that I'm having at the moment is the best possible 
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version of life as it could possibly. And I've seen it through the eyes of love, and I've seen 
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it through the narrow contraption and seeing it through like a darkness, like a muddiness.
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As I said earlier, we are literally creating the world that we're seeing. So the way that I 
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change isn't out there, as Gem's pointed out in that beautiful quote that she said it's within, 
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but sometimes we're really impatient as well, and we think we're not getting them quick. So look at that too. I heard a quote the other day and I love it, 
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and it's the last thing to form on a tree, is the fruit.
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We want the fruit first. We have to have patience. We have to allow life to unfold and we don't. 
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So what are we doing it? Are we having these expectations that are also almost impossible to me that we've made up, that we're then given ourselves a hard time over? 
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We're seeing out through these eyes of everything is exactly as it's meant to be.
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There's this perfection in this moment right now, but for my thinking, I could see that 
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and that the fruits of my being will appear in exactly the right moment. 
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That's really where if we live from there, we're going to get the most out of life.
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Yeah. It really takes the pressure off, doesn't it? It really does. Yeah. There's, there's nothing to do. I need this reminder every week. Let's do this every week.
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I'm busy next week. Sorry, darling. Oh, no. All right. Internet, dollar, internet money. 
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Oh, yeah. I mean, I'm just feeling really chilled and really blissful. And yeah, 
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I guess another question would be, how can I be more, you know, obviously brainwashing myself 
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with unwinding, listening to all the different teachers, but how can I be more in the moment
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you couldn't, how do I say this? It's not possible for you to be more or less what you are right now, if you could see it 
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clearly is more than. It's an abundance. It's, it's just that thought is clouding that, and it 
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has done for me too lately, but I'm just having these moments of seeing it again. Of course. 
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How could I not be? And it's just, you can't be more of what you already are, which is whole.
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You can't make a hole anymore. Hole, it's complete. So it is in seeing that and waking up to 
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that. Is the answer. It's not in trying to get anything, it's the ego and the mind thinking that there's a better place to be or there's a better Gem 
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to be. It's all underneath the thought. You’ve just got to crack out of that shell and see it.
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So the more we think we have to do, the more we think we have to be, the more we think we are not doing it correctly, the further we're pulling ourselves away from it.
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Yes. Mm-hmm. Thought so. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, and you know, we are not going to 
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be consistently happy. That's not the human experience, you know, again, that's a lie.
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Anyone that says, oh yeah, come work with me, you'll be happy all the time. No, you'll be happy a lot more, but you'll also have your challenging times, your sad times, 
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whatever your flavour of emotion is that you kind of go down the rabbit hole with. Yeah, that's going to come. You'll have a different relationship with it.
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You won't try to fix it, and you'll know that as soon as thought changes, you'll have a new experience and your feelings will change. Yeah. Not
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seeing things that they have to be a certain way, they just are. Yeah. Not trying to chase that feeling. Just being,
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yeah. I mean, I don't know if you read what Mr. O wrote in his latest medium, 
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which I found fascinating about that game is produced, was that he said it really well, which was that that happiness.
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Enough, I think you said about that there's an element of the human that wants chaos, and of course we do because with Jewel, with duality, we have creation and destruction. 
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That's who we are now. Before that, when we're pointed to being no, that isn't that, 
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that's just being us. There's no creation and destruction there. From that comes a creation and destruction, but we didn't come to have the human experience and 
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get the ticket for, I'm only going to experience the happiness. I'm only going to experience the good side. We came and we got the ticket to the full human experience. So we will get it 
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all. We will see it all. But I think as well as what you've pointed out in what you read out, 
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Gem and what Eckhart said, and what I've been saying on this call is the, it's okay.
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We get to have both now because we have a deeper understanding of this essence of who we are 
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rather than just this one material experience. We also have this deeper spiritual experience. Now from there, we observe the creation and destruction 
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of our human experience and we go, of course, of course. I'm going to show up like that because ultimately that's what the experience is on the table.
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It it, you know, that's the duality of man, but coming home and seeing that it's all okay can be a great relief. I think I actually replied to 
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Ms. Rowe on it cause I thought it was brilliant. The child gets as much pleasure. From knocking 
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the sandcastle down as it does from building it. That's what we're talking about, you know?
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But when we complain, the child knows that that's playful. We get really caught up. We get really lost because we just want the good stuff. But again, 
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it's grateful in my highs, graceful in my lows. That's life. Life is on the table. We're all 
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here to experience it. I can either resist. Or I can show up and live it in resistance.
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I'm going to make my life smaller and smaller, and I'm going to have more and more problems and acceptance. I'm going to be open to life and I'm going to have 
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a much better time. I'm still going to go through shit, but I'm going to get through 
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it a lot easier than I would've if I didn't understand who I am. And I didn't understand 
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the nature of the ego and resistance and how we can show up differently in the.
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Yeah, and it's like you just saying the good stuff, who decides it's good stuff or bad stuff? It's always us. It's our perception. Everything that's coming 
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towards us is neutral until we give it the label of, oh, this is good for me. Oh, 
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this is bad for me. Oh, I don't want that. Oh, I do want that. Whereas seeing it through neutralise and not giving it those labels going to make life a lot easier
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too. Great point. Bloody brilliant. Yeah, absolutely. We're creating. It's 
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our belief system at play again every time. Our thoughts at play, every time. 
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And you can see how it can be fun to begin to explore it. Well, it is when you explore it rather than being in the mind of, oh no, 
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what's going on? How do I get out with this? What's happening? Oh no, totally. Yeah. But don't you think as you see 
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it, it's like what's happening now for you is you're coming out of where you've been, which hasn't been in a great place. It's been. Your experiences being reordered. It's like, 
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oh, but it's not actually changed. It's being reordered from within. Does, does that make sense?
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Nothing has changed apart from my vision of it. Yes. Yeah. Which was always there to be changed. 
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I just decided not to look in that direction for whatever reason. Yeah. And that's okay, but I'm choosing to now. Yeah. Perfect. Oh, you are perfect. Thank you.
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I only do these faces so Gem could call me. Perfect at the end, by the way. Well, she said she'd never have
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me as a client, so once a week we do a podcast. Oh, nice. Lovely to be back. I love you darling, very much. Oh, it really is.
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And is anyone in the audience? Does anyone have any questions before we start to finish? We are 
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free to take any questions or you can always message me, but that hour has flown past.
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It really has. It really has. Now, I think we've kind of got them all into a nice comatose state, which is wonderful.
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Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Please, guys, is, you know, what we're pointing to is very important 
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for humanity. It really is a signpost home that can really help everybody. So please share this. 
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Please share the podcast. Please sign up to the podcast. Please share it with your friends, because if everyone could see this, the world would be a better place.
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And ultimately, I think that's what we all want. So, you know, it's wonderful to be back again. But you know, the mission is still on, 
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which is to really create a mentally healthy. And much more awakened world, and you are part 
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of that and it's like, take that from us and please run with it if you can. That would be
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amazing. Yeah. And as you go off after the call, if any questions come up or any subjects or topics that 
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you'd like us to cover, just message me or Molls and we would love to talk about them next week. We made this because, well, initially it was in lockdown when people were 
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struggling with mental health and. Yeah, we know that this makes such a huge difference.
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So even if the questions aren't for you, if they're family members or friends, anything that you think will help, please let us know and we would love to talk about them. 
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But yeah, just thank you everyone. Oh, we have a request. Oh, okay. We have hex oshi, 
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so I'm going to Late night caller. Late night, first time caller as well. So nice to have you up here.
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Hi Hexo. Hello. Do you hear. Oh, we do. Hello. How are you? How are you? I'm doing wonderful. 
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Um, I just wanted to get on and say the part about acceptance really hit home for me. I don't know 
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if you've read A New Earth by Eckhart Toll. Yes. Oh my gosh, yes. Beautiful. Yes, yes. So I just 
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finished that one and I just wanted to recommend it to anybody who is dealing with that, the level.
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Acceptance and just going through life, learning how to awaken and see the ego 
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for what it is and be able to work through that. Yeah, I mean, I dunno if you heard, but we've spoke about Eckhart earlier. I quoted and read something from his book, 
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which is Oneness With All Life, which is actually inspirational selections from a new earth.
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So we actually were reading it out on the call, so if you didn't get to listen to the whole thing, please listen to the recording. I think you'll really enjoy it. But I'm a big fan 
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of Eckhart. Wonderful stuff and there's so many great teachers out there. So thank you for coming up and sharing that and I'm really glad that it resonated with you.
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Of course, Molls. Thank you so much. Thank you darling. Oh, so yeah, thank you. Hexoshi and yeah, hopefully you can go back and, and hear the 
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beginning of the call. But yeah, unless anyone else has got any questions, then thank you all 
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for being here. And we look forward to having you next week. Thank you to our sponsors who are them.
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You can visit them at vemp.xyz And yeah, just really grateful to have 
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you all here and looking forward to everyone being together next week. Yeah, thank you everyone. I'm going to leave with a quote, which is from a man named Jeff Foster, 
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who's another wonderful teacher, and it's your thoughts, aren't you?
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But they try hard pretending to be. They are imposters, impersonators. Don't let them fool you. 
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You are vast. They are limited. You are not. They come and go. You do not 
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without a thought. You still exist like the sky, with or without clouds. 
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Thoughts depend on you. You don't depend on thoughts. Your thoughts are not.
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So thank you everybody again, we really, really appreciate you being here. Thank you. Internet dollar for co-hosted. Appreciate it so much 
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Gems. It's wonderful to be back and thank you everybody for listening. Big love.